SO there is NO point to buy anything until it hits steam now - Idea Factory International Official Forum

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Starfox3d64

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Posted 1462536447	Reply with quote #1

OK every game (idea factory) I every got has came to steam. 100% no reason to get the other games. more expensive look worse dlc is more. PC is king here I Wish they just did what the did with amnesia memories releasing both at the same time.

Red Rose Revolver

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Posted 1462573171	Reply with quote #2

No one likes an elitest.

cynicality

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Posted 1462574248	Reply with quote #3

i get where yo are coming from but stop with that 'pc is king' elitist bullshit the reason that people buy idea factory games for the consoles they were first released on is because of physical copies or that they dont like the steam service or pc in general and at least with consoles you know that the game is optimized for said console be it ps3 ps4 or vita

pedrovitch

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Posted 1462587428	Reply with quote #4

Quote: Originally Posted by cynicality i get where yo are coming from but stop with that 'pc is king' elitist bullshit the reason that people buy idea factory games for the consoles they were first released on is because of physical copies or that they dont like the steam service or pc in general and at least with consoles you know that the game is optimized for said console be it ps3 ps4 or vita First of, the PC versions of the games are objectively superior with higher resolutions, better graphics, better framerate and they're actually cheaper. Why on earth would you settle for less?and physical editions are just a joke nowadays. Digital is just so much better and steam is the best digital store so far. You say the games are optimized for consoles but then why are they running at 20fps at low resolution with jaggies? Even Megadimension Neptunia, can't even maintain 60 fps on PS4. Face it. The consoles are underpowered this gen and the games released on them are subpar products held back by outdated hardware. PC is saving the Nep Nep franchise and it's for the best. Iffy keep going, we are the master race . We know how to reward companies that do things for us (just look at Valve and Steam), stick with us, drop that console exclusive bullshit and you won't regret it. We'll get you on top.

Nekodedu

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Posted 1462593853 · Edited	Reply with quote #5

Quote: Originally Posted by pedrovitch First of, the PC versions of the games are objectively superior with higher resolutions, better graphics, better framerate and they're actually cheaper. Why on earth would you settle for less?and physical editions are just a joke nowadays. Digital is just so much better and steam is the best digital store so far. You say the games are optimized for consoles but then why are they running at 20fps at low resolution with jaggies? Even Megadimension Neptunia, can't even maintain 60 fps on PS4. Face it. The consoles are underpowered this gen and the games released on them are subpar products held back by outdated hardware. PC is saving the Nep Nep franchise and it's for the best. Iffy keep going, we are the master race . We know how to reward companies that do things for us (just look at Valve and Steam), stick with us, drop that console exclusive bullshit and you won't regret it. We'll get you on top. the neptunia games are normally on vita cos it safer there, then PC, You see PC has some...(hicops) and those (hicops) are normally torrenting the games or on moding on games like rebirth 3's nude mod That a BIG no no wen it comes to games Take the Sims for an example they allmos Got sued for a mod they did not create... Al explan later two why the games are being Luncht first for vita and than for PC but I need to go to bed it's 1am we're I live so...

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Posted 1462593942	Reply with quote #6

Quote: Originally Posted by pedrovitch . . . Who let you in here? Shoo. Back to your cave. __________________

Masuo15

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Posted 1462643976	Reply with quote #7

Quote: Originally Posted by pedrovitch .... Im a PC user, mostly an Steam user; and I can tell you, you are wrong on what you just said. Even if the games are being released for PC shortly after be first released for Vita/PS4, the PC versions arent "superior", are ported; and the biggest issue with PC titles, is how those will react with different rigs and drivers. For example, there had been reports and issues for some games that wont even launch on a highend pc; others that the cutscenes are just black screens and the FPS never being over 30. I dont belive is on IFInternational's end but on the users as the testings for those ports werent enough to identify and fix the causes fr the game to be optimized, or to send a proper feedback to help solve those issues. Now all the issues listed, are not even present on Vita/PS4 because the hardware/software is the exact same on every single handheld/console. There is no reason to complay for PC ports now, you get to play first and better on Vita/PS4, with colecctions and physical versions; and PC fanbase also have a chance to play the game a while after with some issues.

razisgosu

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Posted 1462686310	Reply with quote #8

Quote: Originally Posted by pedrovitch First of, the PC versions of the games are objectively superior with higher resolutions, better graphics, better framerate and they're actually cheaper. Why on earth would you settle for less?and physical editions are just a joke nowadays. Digital is just so much better and steam is the best digital store so far. You say the games are optimized for consoles but then why are they running at 20fps at low resolution with jaggies? Even Megadimension Neptunia, can't even maintain 60 fps on PS4. Face it. The consoles are underpowered this gen and the games released on them are subpar products held back by outdated hardware. PC is saving the Nep Nep franchise and it's for the best. Iffy keep going, we are the master race . We know how to reward companies that do things for us (just look at Valve and Steam), stick with us, drop that console exclusive bullshit and you won't regret it. We'll get you on top. PC users know how to reward you, if by that you mean buying a product at 75% off during a Steam sale and only if your game can run at 4k and 144 fps. You're also severely exaggerating the optimization on the PS4. I've never had it drop frames for me. You're coming off as extremely biased and ignorant, that's why nobody is taking you seriously.

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Posted 1462742995	Reply with quote #9

Quote: Originally Posted by Masuo15 Even if the games are being released for PC shortly after be first released for Vita/PS4, the PC versions arent "superior", are ported; and the biggest issue with PC titles, is how those will react with different rigs and drivers. For example, there had been reports and issues for some games that wont even launch on a highend pc; others that the cutscenes are just black screens and the FPS never being over 30. ... Now all the issues listed, are not even present on Vita/PS4 because the hardware/software is the exact same on every single handheld/console. ... This. And it might get even worse over time. Many years from now on, I can fire up my PS3/4/Vita and play any game without issues. If I've got that game as disc/cartridge I don't even need internet connection or PSN servers. On the PC though, will Windows 11 or 12 still run the game or will it crash? Will a graphics card from X years in the future still be able to render it correctly?

BIackrock

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Posted 1462757382	Reply with quote #10

Quote: Originally Posted by pedrovitch First of, the PC versions of the games are objectively superior with higher resolutions, better graphics, better framerate and they're actually cheaper. Why on earth would you settle for less?and physical editions are just a joke nowadays. Digital is just so much better and steam is the best digital store so far. You say the games are optimized for consoles but then why are they running at 20fps at low resolution with jaggies? Even Megadimension Neptunia, can't even maintain 60 fps on PS4. Face it. The consoles are underpowered this gen and the games released on them are subpar products held back by outdated hardware. PC is saving the Nep Nep franchise and it's for the best. Iffy keep going, we are the master race . We know how to reward companies that do things for us (just look at Valve and Steam), stick with us, drop that console exclusive bullshit and you won't regret it. We'll get you on top. Please. Don't be so arrogant. I want to switch to console when I see people like you calling themself Master race

Boro

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Posted 1462778358	Reply with quote #11

Seriously, again with the FPS/resolution (a.k.a. output) crap? The most important part of being a PC user is the control (mouse precision and lots of hotkeys) and customization, and that any pc user worth it's salt isn't above cracking out a text or code editor to look into and tinker with things. (Although, with most of the game data packed up and made unreadable to text editors, it's hard to make meaningful changes in the nep games. However, many conversation texts are ready viewable (and editable) out of the box with notepad++)

穂乃果

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Posted 1462855491 · Edited	Reply with quote #12

I love the assumption that just because past games have been ported over, doesn't mean they all will. There is no guarantee so I wouln't make assumptions like that. Especially if an obscure title like the new announced title, MeiQ, barely breaks even (worse if they're at a loss), what makes you think it would get put on anything else? That's not how the world works. There actually has to be interest via purchasing on the existing platform before even concidering bringing it somewhere else. Regardless, I'm glad they are capitalizing on the small western PC market to at least some extent (their ports still need much improvement) over other companies that don't bother, but there is no reason for you OP to create a thread topic like this, where clearly the fans supporting the existing [console] version has the final say if it will be ported or not. It really doesn't matter that some PC's out there might have better specs, but as how IF has been doing business, they are not their priority by any stretch of the imaginaction. Like I said, if the existing version of a game doesn't show interest via purchasing it, what makes you think they would spend more money outsourcing their game to get it ported to an even smaller market if they can't even make a profit to begin with? Your post and response(s) were really uncalled for.

James Stuller

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Posted 1462974935 · Edited	Reply with quote #13

Quote: Originally Posted by razisgosu PC users know how to reward you, if by that you mean buying a product at 75% off during a Steam sale and only if your game can run at 4k and 144 fps. You're also severely exaggerating the optimization on the PS4. I've never had it drop frames for me. You're coming off as extremely biased and ignorant, that's why nobody is taking you seriously. *Megadimension Neptunia VII* had bad frame rate drop at [Jingu Sakura Park] dungeon it feels like frame rate is blow 30fps in Jingu Sakura Park dungeon.

razisgosu

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Posted 1462988427	Reply with quote #14

One dungeon? If that's all I'd call it solid.

Gogetters

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Posted 1463122391 · Edited	Reply with quote #15

I rather have a physical copy over a digital copy, especially if that digital copy has DRM. Physical > GOG > Steam! Oh, and I get to play it before you and get goodies like artbooks and soundtracks~ __________________ Don't support censorship!

Starfox3d64

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Posted 1463147874	Reply with quote #16

When i meant Pc is king to ps vita i think ps4 way better than pc

Masuo15

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Posted 1463169041 · Edited	Reply with quote #17

Quote: Originally Posted by Starfox3d64 When i meant Pc is king to ps vita i think ps4 way better than pc I couldnt agree more with this, but more different reasons 1.- On Japan, PSP still have some love and even cross play between PSP/Vita, while outside Asia, PSP is dead and everything for it is for Vita even if isnt upgrade/optimized but bundled. 2.- Vita dont sell that well; so porting Vita titles to PC is a good move. 3.- PS4 is a pretty stable and powerfull console, I still prefer phyisical copy of games, something PC lacks for almost every single game. But Im a PC gamer for two facts, I can also work with my PC and I could only afford one plataform; my previous PC was at least 6 or 7 years old with a Windows Vista, 2GB Ram and a crappy videocard. That thing could only run Team Fortress 2 on the lowest settings on Directx8 AND still have freezes. I do like games being ported for Pc and hopefully be kinda stable, those dont need to be perfect but as long as playeable and not annoying on perfomance, is good. Those ports shouldnt be seen like "Im so angry because this game I already played and beat is being ported to other plataform", but more like "Neptunia fans out there that couldnt afford a PS4 or Vita, but own a PC, now have a chance to play them too". Also a new forum to interact with fans wich is Steams Community Hub.

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Posted 1463199872	Reply with quote #18

PSP is dead. Even in Japan. They aren't making the systems anymore, no one has made games for it in a while, and everyone has moved on to either Vita, 3DS, or both. __________________

Gogetters

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Posted 1463218262	Reply with quote #19

Didn't they kill off the PSN on the PSP or was that just the west? __________________ Don't support censorship!

Masuo15

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Posted 1463262279	Reply with quote #20

I was wrong, they did kill PSP earlier on the west, on Japan it has 1 or 2 more years. I didnt know the exact date when they stop but I now it still lived because titles like God Eater 2, Fate/Extra 2 and Danganronpa 2 came for the PSP on Japan, while on the west we never saw those titles for PSP, never got them or were only for Vita. Just recently, Danganronpa 2 came for Steam and God Eater 2 is comming to Steam too.

Boro

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Posted 1463300217	Reply with quote #21

Plus, PSP emulation is not exactly new, many of the PSP roms are widely available, even to handheld devices (android tablets) (to which one can attach a ps controller I think) so it's not like anyone lost anything.

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